DDA Board Minutes
Meeting Minutes
Cascade Charter Township
Downtown Development Authority
Board of Directors (Special Meeting)
July 17, 2007
Cascade Library Wisner Center
2870 Jacksmith Ave. SE
ATTENDEES: Lori Chu, Ray James, Julie Johnson, Mike Julien, Diana
Kingsland, Joann Noto.
Absences: Ron Clark (expected), Chairman, David Huhn (expected), Dan
Wallace (expected)
Others Attending: Assistant to the Manager Sandra Otey; Admin.
Assistant Lisa Hern.
Guests: Tony Kuhtz from Fishbeck, Thompson, Carr & Huber
(FTC&H), Pat Cornelisse from Cornelisse and Design.
ARTICLE 1: Call the Meeting to Order
In Chairman Clark's absence, Secretary Kingsland called the meeting to
order at 7:06 p.m.
ARTICLE 2: Approval of the Agenda
Secretary Kingsland requested a motion of approval of the July 17,
2007 DDA Agenda. Member Julien motioned for approval, supported by
Member Noto. All in favor of motion, with none opposed. Motion
carried.
ARTICLE 3: Approval of the Minutes of May 15, 2007
Secretary Kingsland requested a motion of approval of the May 15, 2007
minutes.
Member Johnson requested a correction on Page 4, first paragraph,
correct "Member Julien asked when the pots will be planted…"
to "Member Johnson asked when the pots will be planted…."
Member Julien motioned for approval of the May 15th Minutes as
corrected, supported by Member Chu. All in favor of the May 15, 2007
DDA Minutes as corrected; none opposed. Motion carried.
ARTICLE 4: Discussion of Streetlights, Street Trees and Sidewalks
along 28th Street.
Assistant to the Manager Otey said the DDA Board discussed at the
May Board Meeting that it is time to begin discussions regarding
streetlights, street trees and sidewalks along 28th Street as the next
phase of the project is slated for 2008.
The DDA Board requested pictures of the street lights and requested
that both Pat Cornelisse, Cornelisse and Design, and Tony Kuhtz,
FTC&H, attend tonight's meeting for their input and to answer any
questions the Board may have.
At the May meeting, the Board asked for a picture showing the
streetlights and spacing of the streetlights, Assistant to the Manager
Otey referred to the picture within the Boards' packets.
Assistant to the Manager Otey noted that the streetlights in the
Village District are approximately 85-feet apart and as you progress
west up 28th Street to Thornhills Avenue, the streetlights are
120-feet apart. Assistant to the Manager Otey also noted the Board
needs to discuss whether the Township should install the existing
Lumec fixtures or switch to a new streetlight fixture. The picture
within the Boards' packets shows the light spacing at 160-feet apart.
Street trees also need to be discussed as to the spacing and types
of trees. Assistant to the Manager Otey said that Pat Cornelisse,
Cornelisse and Design, is also in attendance tonight to answer any
questions the Board may have.
Mr. Kuhtz noted that the Board might also want to consider
utilizing 150-watt light bulbs that Lumec will support if they place
the streetlights 160-feet apart. He also noted that the new fixtures
would all have the black top on the glass globe to provide downcast
lighting.
Secretary Kingsland said that she favors using the Lumec fixtures
and supports the 160-foot spacing versus the 85-foot spacing done in
the Village District.
Member James asked if there were any safety issues with the
increase in wattage or in spacing the streetlights at 120-feet versus
the 160-feet. Mr. Kuhtz said the main concern FTC&H had with the
increased wattage was the glare above the street and with the wider
spacing, this should not be a problem. Kent County Road Commission
does require the streetlights be placed at least five (5) feet from
the curb and the picture provided does not show this. Member Julien
asked that KCRC be contacted for what they allow with streetlights and
their placement.
Member Chu asked if a 150-watt bulb would provide too much glare,
sometimes the glare from the lights is so much above that drivers
cannot see the road and Mr. Kuhtz said the black tops will help
prevent this problem.
Member Johnson feels there is too much glare now with the 100-watt
bulbs and does not favor the 150-watt bulbs. She also wondered if
160-feet is too far apart for the new streetlights and suggested the
lights be 150-feet apart. Mr. Kuhtz said the DDA Board could continue
with the 120-foot spacing down 28th Street but this would add to the
cost of the project since more streetlights would be necessary.
Ms. Cornelisse noted the DDA Board should also consider the street
trees when considering the distances between each streetlight. She
noted that if the Board were to place the streetlights every 150-feet,
as Member Johnson suggested, she could keep a rhythm with the
landscaping. Ms. Cornelisse believes if the streetlights were 160-feet
apart, there would be bare areas with the street trees. Her vision is
to have three (3) trees between the streetlights and she can achieve
this if the streetlights are placed at either 150-feet or 120-feet.
Member Julien favors spacing the streetlights 150-feet apart with
plantings every 50-feet. He requested that KCRC be contacted regarding
the streetlight placement and that Ms. Cornelisse review the site and
recommend plantings once KCRC defines their streetlight placement
requirements; some of the streetlights may have to be placed on the
far side of the sidewalk. Member Julien also requested a site plan for
the Boards' review at the next meeting.
Mr. Kuhtz noted that on the northwest corner of Thornhills Ave.
there is a power pole placed behind the sidewalk and some of the new
streetlights may also have to be placed behind the sidewalk in that
area due to KCRC's requirements. He noted that in that area of 28th
Street and Thornhills Avenue, the Board should plan on the first
couple of streetlights being placed behind the sidewalk.
Member Julien asked if the massive power poles could be painted and
Ms. Cornelisse noted that a good tree canopy would help them blend
into the area more.
Member Noto expressed concern with some of the tree placements and
the potential of growing into the power lines and Ms. Cornelisse noted
that the trees along Thornhills Ave. and in front of her building are
short trees and will not grow above 50-feet tall.
Secretary Kingsland summarized that the DDA Board needs to find out
KCRC's requirements in the streetlight placement prior to Ms.
Cornelisse's review of street tree recommendations. Ms. Cornelisse
said that if the streetlights do need to be placed 5-feet away from
the curb and are behind the sidewalks, the DDA may have to obtain
easement rights for plantings.
Member Johnson asked the Board if they favored the 100-watt bulbs
or the 150-watt bulbs. Member Chu does not favor the 150-watt bulbs
and Member Julien asked the Board if they wanted to focus the lighting
on the sidewalk instead of the streets. Assistant to the Manager Otey
said there would be some concern regarding right-of-way if the
lighting were behind the sidewalk. Ms. Cornelisse said the focus
should be on enhancing the street and not decorating the sidewalk.
Member Chu suggested the Board decide upon the wattage once the
placements of the streetlights is determined, 150-watt bulbs may be
needed in the areas where the streetlights may need to be placed
behind the sidewalk.
Member Johnson noted that if some of the streetlights have 150-watt
bulbs and some have 100-watt bulbs, it would have a poor visual affect
on the lighting, as some bulbs would be brighter than others. Mr.
Kuhtz supported keeping the light bulbs consistent with 100-watts.
Member Noto asked if a drawing could be done showing the differences
between the 100-watts and 150-watts and Member Johnson asked if the
Township could actually choose one light and insert a 150-watt bulb so
the Board can see the difference in the lighting. Mr. Kuhtz said that
cannot be done because the 150-watt bulb would need a new baluster,
the current baluster does not support 150-watts.
Member Julien supported staying with the 100-watt bulbs from a
maintenance aspect.
Mr. Kuhtz asked if the DDA Board wanted the double-fixtures
installed at the intersections and the Board favored installing the
double-fixtures at the major intersections with a traffic light (i.e.
Kraft Avenue, Charlevoix Drive). Member Julien asked if the
streetlights would stop at Kraft Avenue. Assistant to the Manager Otey
recommended that the lighting stop at Kraft Avenue until the decision
is made regarding the pedestrian walkway under the highway along 28th
Street.
Member Julien noted Meijer may wish to install a sidewalk down the
west side of Kraft Avenue, does the DDA Board want to consider
lighting along Kraft Avenue now that the MVP Sportsplex and the
Turnberry project would have a service drive that would connect to
Meijer's as well? Member Johnson thought lighting would look better in
front of Meijer along 28th Street and the potential of a sidewalk
along 28th Street that would run along side of the 28th Street
entrance and connect to the drive from that point. Member Johnson said
the lighting along 28th Street would also look fine without the
sidewalk if the DDA needed to wait for the highway pedestrian walkway
and that project's outcome.
Mr. Kuhtz noted the DDA needs to consider when working towards
Patterson Avenue, MDOT (Michigan Department of Transportation) does
own part of 28th Street and if lighting were to be installed, the
Township would need to base their lighting upon the specific
requirements of MDOT.
Secretary Kingsland summarized the discussion by noting that the
KCRC needs to be contacted regarding their curb setback requirements
for streetlights along 28th Street. Once that information is obtained,
the Board has agreed to the 150-foot wide streetlight placement and
Ms. Cornelisse will review the site and provide street tree
recommendations at the next DDA Meeting. A site plan will also be
provided at the next meeting.
The DDA Board has also agreed to utilize the same Lumec fixtures
with 100-watt bulbs and the black top. Double-fixtures will be
installed at Charlevoix and Kraft Avenue, all four corners.
ARTICLE 5: Discussion of the DDA Board and Supervisor having Dual
Status
Assistant to the Manager Otey said in follow-up to the discussion held
at the May Board Meeting regarding the makeup of the DDA Board and
that we may be out of compliance with State Statute, the Statute says
that not less than a majority of the Board Members five (5) must be
person having either an interest in property in the Downtown District
or being officers, members, trustees, principals or employees of an
entity having an interest in property in the Downtown District.
At the current time, five (5) of the nine (9) members do not have
an interest in property within the DDA District. Assistant to the
Manager Otey said she did email Dick Wendt and asked if the Supervisor
could have a dual status as the Supervisor and as an Officer of Meijer
and his response was that "As the Township's Chief Executive
Officer, Member Julien, by statute is a member of the board. There is
nothing in the statute that says he cannot be considered when
determining that there are a majority of board members that have 'an
interest'. Thus, the answer is that Member Julien as an
employee/officer of Meijer which has property in the Downtown District
can be counted as a part of the required majority having 'an
interest'." Assistant to the Manager Otey also noted that Member
Wallace has sold his property and the Board does not comply. Member
Chu has offered to step-down to allow for a qualified member to join
and has provided Staff with a potential candidate. Centennial Park is
also progressing with an active Business Association and Staff would
like to contact the Business Association to see if there is interest
in a business owner serving on the DDA Board.
Member Julien supported contacting the Centennial Park Business
Association for their interest in serving on the DDA Board and if
there is no interest, Staff to contact Member Chu's potential member.
Member Julien also asked who's terms will be expiring in the near
future and Assistant to the Manager Otey noted that Members Clark and
James will be the next to expire.
The Board agreed for Assistant to the Manager Otey approaches the
Centennial Park Business Association for their involvement in the DDA
and if no interest, contact Member Chu's reference.
ARTICLE 6: Any Other Business.
Secretary Kingsland opened the meeting for any other business, there
was none.
ARTICLE 7. Adjournment
Secretary Kingsland requested a motion for adjournment. At 7:55 p.m.
Member Julien motioned for adjournment, supported by Member James.
Respectfully Submitted,
Lisa Hern, Recording Secretary
Approved as to form by:
Sandra Otey, Assistant to the Manager

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